ChatGPT and Vintage CD Players

Posted on Nov 17, 2024
tl;dr: Using ChatGPT to do heavy schematics lifting

ChatGPT vs. The Technics SL-XP190

The Technics SL-XP190

I can’t recall why I wanted one of these - but I clearly did - as an ebay alert popped saying one was listed for the rather reasonable ‘buy it now’ price of £24.99. I must have set it for some reason, aeons ago, so clicking buy was a no-brainer - the winter months are coming and it’s time for indoor hobbies. After all, it still had the original stickers on it from the factory - how much could it have been used?

ebay listing

I was pleasantly surprised - it all worked - nothing for me to tinker with here, it was in amazing condition.

Let’s invent some problems to be fixed then! Actually, as capacitors age they start to breakdown, electrolytics don’t live forever. Generally when I restore a vintage CD player the ones in the power supply are replaced, and any electrolytics in the signal path. In order to do that, we need to know where to look, and back in the 90’s they still used to issue service manual for devices…

Finding the Service Manual

I couldn’t find the book for the SL-XP190, but I did find the one for the SL-XP160. A close enough match, if you are interested in the differences between the models they’re here.

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The service manual for the SL-XP160 is here

Audio Output Stage

The last stage before the headphone output is the headphone amplifier, powered by the TDA 1308TT. The first use for chatgpt in a time saving capacity is to tell me all about it… it’s great being ablw to ask questions like ‘if I changed the TDA1308 for the LM4562 what characteristics change ?’ and have details come back at you, without having to flip between datasheets and find the information you’re after. Time saved here is not minor…

Characteristic TDA1308 LM4562 Result
Fidelity Good Excellent Significant audio quality boost.
Current Drive High Moderate May need buffers for headphones.
Power Supply Low voltage (1.8V–6V) Higher voltage (±5V–±17V) Requires power supply upgrade.
Noise/Distortion Moderate Ultra-low Quieter, cleaner audio.
Stability Optimized for simplicity Sensitive to layout/load Requires careful design.

Pasting Schematics

I was amazed the first time I pasted a schematic and found that chatgpt could follow them. I uploaded screenshots of each of the pertinent pages, and asked it to analyse it.

Capacitor Shopping List

Paste in all the schematics, ask it to identify all electrolytics which would benefit from being replaced.

You absolutely should never trust the output, e.g. C711 and C712 in the datahseet are 10uF, but AI identified them as 100uF!

Ref. No. Part No. Capacitance Voltage Rating Description Circuit Section
C12 RCE1AKA4701G 47 µF 10V Power supply decoupling for clean DC voltage near the IC. Power Supply
C13 RCE0JSA4701X 47 µF 6.3V Signal coupling to block DC in the audio path. Signal Path
C14 RCE0JKA1011V 100 µF 6.3V Local decoupling to stabilize voltage near amplifier stages. Amplifier Decoupling
C15 ECA1C101I 0.1 µF 16V Power filtering capacitor near the battery/DC input. Battery/DC Input
C16 ECA1EAK4R7I 1 µF 16V Power supply decoupling for the regulator circuit. Power Supply
C605, C606 ECA1C4701I 10 µF 16V Power supply decoupling for the regulator circuit. Power Supply
C607, C608 ECA1HL681KBN 680 pF 50V Decoupling and smoothing in the muting/audio output circuit. Audio Muting Circuit
C709, C710 ECA0GKA221 220 µF 4V Output coupling capacitors for left and right channels of headphone amplifier. Headphone Amplifier
C711, C712 Unknown 10 µF 6.3V Signal coupling to block DC from the input signal. Headphone Amplifier (Input)